Watching Two Detectives
Coming soon from Sarah Ferris Media, the award-winning producer behind hits like *Conning the Con*, *Klooghless: The Long Con*, *Stop the Killing*, *The Bravery Academy*, and *Guilty Greenie*, a new true crime podcast that dives deeper into the heart of unsolved mysteries than ever before. **Watching Two Detectives**, hosted by retired NSW Police Detectives Scott Rogan and Peter Hogan, revisits the cases that have haunted them, bringing new insights and revelations to light.
Most Recent Episode
In the fifth and final episode of this special crossover between Stop the Killing and Watching Two Detectives, former head of the FBI’s Active Shooter Program Katherine Schweit joins retired New South Wales detectives Scott Rogan and Peter Hogan one last time.
The conversation begins with the information we still do not know about the Bondi Beach mass shooting — and why pending court proceedings, privacy laws and suppression orders can limit what is released to the public.
Katherine, Scott and Peter examine the growing pressure for instant answers after major crimes, the spread of conspiracy theories and the new challenge facing investigators: artificial intelligence making it increasingly difficult to know whether video, images and evidence shared online are real.
They also reflect on the extraordinary courage shown during the attack. Bondi lifesavers ran towards danger with first-aid kits while shots were still being fired. Ordinary people protected strangers, carried the injured and made decisions in seconds that may have saved lives.
But what about those who freeze?
Katherine explains why fight, flight and freeze are all normal human responses — and why nobody can truly know how they will react until they are placed in that situation. Her advice is clear: your first responsibility is to survive and return home to the people who love you.
The episode then turns to the personal mission behind both podcasts.
Katherine reflects on leaving the FBI but never leaving the work behind, and on how Stop the Killing restored some of her faith in humanity by creating a community of listeners who want answers, solutions and practical ways to make their communities safer.
Scott and Peter explore the emotional toll of law enforcement, the coping mechanisms officers develop and why bringing humanity back into these conversations matters.
This final episode also considers how victims should be spoken about. Behind every statistic is a person, a family and a life permanently changed.
This is the final chapter of the five-part Stop the Killing x Watching Two Detectives crossover — a series about the Bondi Beach mass shooting, police response, misinformation, courage, survival and prevention.
Because this is more than true crime.
It is a mission.
Over the next few weeks, both podcast feeds will continue the crossover. Watching Two Detectives will feature selected episodes from the more than 200 episodes of Stop the Killing, while Stop the Killing will share the first two episodes of the award-winning first season of Watching Two Detectives.
Follow both podcasts to hear more powerful, victim-focused stories and expert conversations designed to inform, challenge and help keep people safer.
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Season One: If Tomorrow Never Comes
In our gripping first season, "If Tomorrow Never Comes," we unravel the chilling and complex murder of Michael Furlong. Unlike any crime story you've heard, this case twists on its axis with developments so shocking, they'd be dismissed as too unbelievable for a Hollywood script.
Scott Rogan and Peter Hogan are not just recounting the case; they're reopening the files with a personal connection that adds layers of depth and humanity to the narrative. Joined by the detective who led the investigation, Clive Ainly, this season offers unprecedented access to the people closest to the case. Michael's son Luke, who was only 11 at the time of his father's murder, and his ex-wife, Colline, share their poignant journeys of seeking answers and closure.
The Story That Grips Your Soul
This isn't just a recounting of facts; it's an exploration of the ripple effects of a single act of violence. From the crime scene that shook the detectives to their core to the heart-wrenching irony of Michael's last gift to his ex-wife—a CD featuring Ronan Keating's "If Tomorrow Never Comes"—this season brings you closer to the case than ever before.
Why You Can't Miss This
Deep Dive
Go beyond the headlines and the cold facts. Experience the human side of a true crime story, accompanied by those who lived through it.
Unprecedented Access
Hear directly from the detectives who worked the case and the family members still seeking answers.
Shocking Twists
Just when you think you've understood the case, new revelations emerge, each more surprising than the last.
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Don't miss out on this compelling journey through the shadows of the past into the light of truth. Subscribe now on all usual podcast platforms, and stay up-to-date with the latest information on launch dates by following us on Instagram [@conmunitypodcast].
Watching Two Detectives: If Tomorrow Never Comes is more than just a true crime podcast; it's a quest for justice, understanding, and closure. Join Scott Rogan, Peter Hogan, and their guests as they delve into a case that forever changed their lives and may just change yours, too.
Original music by Eleventh Stone: Peter Hogan and Greg Wilson.
The Team
Peter Hogan
Scott Rogan
